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« on: December 31, 2003, 05:10:54 am »

Say whatever you want about Assembly childtraining:

However, today I was soundly, conclusively beaten in chess by Lucas Sturnfield.  He made me look stupid, and I am actually a pretty good player....at least I thought I was.

Whatever the detriments of Assembly child training are, chess aptitude is not one of them, at least in the Sturnfield family.

My short term life goal is to beat him just once....


Brent
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2003, 10:06:47 am »


Say whatever you want about Assembly childtraining:

However, today I was soundly, conclusively beaten in chess by Lucas Sturnfield.  He made me look stupid, and I am actually a pretty good player....at least I thought I was.

Whatever the detriments of Assembly child training are, chess aptitude is not one of them, at least in the Sturnfield family.

My short term life goal is to beat him just once....


Brent

     I strongly suspect that while other AKs were on their mats looking at picture books, wee Lucas was playing computer chess with the sound muted! Shocked Roll Eyes

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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2003, 07:13:35 pm »

Um, Brent, I'm guessing the average IQ in the Sturnfield household to be about 210! Shocked

Better to start with someone who rode the short bus. Go down to the docks in San Fran and take DG on. He always fancied himself the master gamesman (credit to him for teaching me Risk!).
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2003, 09:27:03 pm »

Brent---

I agree with Scott. Hey---I'll even play you a game. The horsies get to make "L" shaped moves right?


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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2003, 10:16:48 pm »

Um, Brent, I'm guessing the average IQ in the Sturnfield household to be about 210! Shocked

Better to start with someone who rode the short bus. Go down to the docks in San Fran and take DG on. He always fancied himself the master gamesman (credit to him for teaching me Risk!).

funny thing is, I had won 10 games in a row before playing him.  I always tried to play people who had a higher rating than I did.   After he beat me the third time, he informed me that he was ranked 44th in Illinois, then he set the timer for 15 minutes and said "that should be plenty of time."   Sad

He was right.

I'm glad Lucas wasn't part of the Dark Side in this whole affair.

Brent
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2003, 10:26:59 pm »

[I'm glad Lucas wasn't part of the Dark Side in this whole affair.

Brent

It was close! Well, not really, he's too smart and his family is too cool. But he was out there defending the system for a short while!

I knew he'd come around.

Hey, maybe you could take him in a more physical sport. Well maybe not, he made the U of I rugby team.

Tiddlywinks?

Scott
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2003, 11:15:12 pm »

But he was out there defending the system for a short while!

you guys are funny, but it is interesting the affect a year of life has upon a person, eh?

i suppose i should mention that both my dad and my uncle were state chess champions in highschool as it helps to have a good teacher in anything you learn - (and also an understanding father who would leave the meeting to get me new batteries for my muted Grandmasterô series handheld  Roll Eyes).  

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2003, 11:30:08 pm »

Um, Brent, I'm guessing the average IQ in the Sturnfield household to be about 210! Shocked

Better to start with someone who rode the short bus. Go down to the docks in San Fran and take DG on. He always fancied himself the master gamesman (credit to him for teaching me Risk!).

During the years when David and I were friends, he taught me how to play Diplomacy.  This is a really great game!  (Thanks David)

What was funny, is that every time we played, I always found myself against him.  He was king of his allies, and I was usually aligned with people who had to survive his attacks.  I usually won---but always had to worry about him getting people to defect from my side over to his.  He got people to agree, first thing, that they wouldn't be trusted if they broke a committment---which was always an agreement to help him.   He always ended up with the most recources on his side, but usually lost.

I didn't always have the most toys on my side, but we usually won.   David and I were always enemies in diplomacy.  He didn't know how to play chess.

Timothy was a bad chess player.  Typical move the queen out on the second move kind of player----nothing like Lucas.

I think I can beat him in swimming and sailing   Wink  (I'm not competing, I'm just having some fun.  I predict Lucas will be famous someday, and I want to be able to tell the reporters that I knew him when.....)

Brent
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2003, 11:52:20 pm »

I am the worst chess player I have ever known.  One time I taught someone the rules of chess.  He then proceeded to beat me at his very first game.
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2004, 12:00:20 am »

I was taught how the pieces move and that was it. I can beat pretty much anybody who has the same level of experience as I do, but I don't stand a chance against anyone who has even the slightest bit of knowledge.

I'll play anyone one-on-one in basketball, though!

Scott
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2004, 01:49:26 am »

I am the worst chess player I have ever known.  One time I taught someone the rules of chess.  He then proceeded to beat me at his very first game.

This sounds very similar to my attempts to learn Go.  People I taught the rules to would often immediately beat me.  Once I had opportunity to try playing a real Go player, a Korean co-worker at a former place of employment, who quickly got bored and gave it up.

Years ago, I used to play chess reasonably well, but now I tend to make mistakes and lose.  I never did go to the trouble of learning the standard openings.

While a computer has succeeded in beating the world chess champion, the best Go playing computer programs can't even beat a rank amateur.  Perhaps that means that Go is a more difficult game than chess.  Even clearly defining the end of the game and the scoring is difficult.  It is based on a circular definition.  The score is defined by the territory surrounded by defensible groups, less captured stones.  Whether a group is defensible is defined by whether an attempted attack on the group will result in an improved score.  The book, Mathematical Go by Berlekamp and Wolfe, contains an attempt at clearly defining some of these things.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2004, 02:43:50 am »

ohhhh i am tried my hand at Go.....and it did not work out at all  Cry

talk about convoluted games  Lips sealed

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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2004, 02:53:49 am »

Hey, is GO the game they played at the university in A Beautiful Mind? Great flick, btw.

Scott
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2004, 04:25:45 am »

Hey, is GO the game they played at the university in A Beautiful Mind? Great flick, btw.

Scott

Yup, one of the few games where you can play perfectly and still lose

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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2004, 06:43:24 am »

There's an old war movie called "Heaven knows, Mr. Allison" in which the sole survivor of a Navy ship sunk by the Japanese lands on an evacuated island on which only a nun is left.  Later the Japanese land on the island, and he sneaks into their storeroom to find supplies, but the guards return unexpectedly.  He ends up having to lie there hiding motionless through the whole night while the guards play two games of Go.
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