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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2003, 10:30:38 am » |
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The Assembly's primary justification for their notion of "seeking counsel" rests on many verses in Proverbs such as "The way of a fool is right in his won eyes, but he who heeds counsel is wise" (12:15, cf. 11:14 and 15:22). However, it is clear Solomon was writing to “my son" (e.g., Prov. 1:8 and 12 other passages), the future king. Other passages about "seeking counsel", like "For by wise counsel you will wage ware, and in a multitude of counselors there is safety" (Prov. 24:6; cf. 20:18), make it clear that the future king is supposed to consult his court counselors (e.g., 1 Kings 12:6) for ADVICE if he is going to wage war, etc. The King of Israel certainly did not have to submit to his counselors and follow what they said as if it were God’s will. The Hebrew words that are translated "counsel" mean "advice." But the Assembly has created a manmade procedure that expects everyone "in committed fellowship" to "seek counsel" by going to the leadership to “find the will of God together.” Everyone knows what I am talking about: you get a promise, you take it to the leadership, and then you "find the will of God together." In the Assembly, to "seek counsel' is ultimately to submit to whatever the brothers say is the will of God for you. Yes you have a few promises, but if they don't agree how you think the Lord is leading you, they will tell you so and discourage you from going against what they say. I talked to the most respected worker in our Assembly to see if I could get him to admit that individuals have to “understand what the will of the Lord is” (Eph. 5:17) for themselves. He tried to give me the Assembly rules: get a promise, seek counsel and then the will of God is confirmed by the unity of the saints who stand with the leading brothers and the individual who needs to make a decision. So we determine the will of God together and not on our own? His reply: “You need the approval of the brethren and the unanimity of the saints to know you are in God's will."
In The Fight by John White (a popular Christian book that has been reprinted for years) it says "When you seek counsel... don't go with the idea of letting your mentor make the decision for you. You want a first hand, not a second hand relationship with God. The decision must be yours. Don't even allow yourself to worry about the approval of the person you talk to. You are going to have to answer to God, not your counselor... Seek counsel by all means, but let the responsibility of deciding God's will to be yours."
If you are in the Assembly, you know very well you do need the "approval of the leadership" and "the unity of the saints" or you will be seen as "not submitting to the leadership,” “acting independently,” and not doing God's will.
The Assembly claims it follows the “New Testament Pattern” but even history tells us differently: John Chrysostom, one of the most popular preachers of his time and a contemporary of Augustine of Hippo, wrote, "We do not have 'authority over your faith,' beloved, nor do we command these things as your lords and masters. We are appointed for the teaching of the word, not power, nor for absolute authority. We hold the place of counselors to advise you. The counselor speaks his own opinion, not forcing his listener, but leaving him full master of his choice in what is said." Not the differences in concepts and practice of the Assembly: Advice is given not permission or approval, the counselor “speaks his own opinion” not the leading brothers have “the will of God” or “the mind of the Lord,” and the person seeking the will of God is left “full master of his choice in what is said” not “submit to the leadership who have the mind of the Lord.”
Even the Christian pamphlet entitled "Knowing God's Will from Last Days Ministries that was once on the Assembly booktable says "Counsel from those who are known to have a pure walk with God is often of great value when seeking further light on some major decision. This counsel should be more in the area of principles, not pronouncements. Carefully concerned and loving suggestions aren’t' necessary final or direct statements form the Lord." No supposed “:mind of the Lord” here either; the mind you are expected to use is your own without any hindrance from others.
But Assembly members are supposed to take "the godly counsel" that the brothers give as God's will for them or they are not “submitting to God’s appointed leadership” or are “acting independently.” Are we not, like is says in Hebrews, supposed to “obey” those in authority over us? Hold it: the word “obey” means “be persuaded by” and implies a choice. Check how that word is used elsewhere in the New Testament—nowhere does it say you have to hand over your right to choose God’s will to others. You have freedom Christ.
And the Assembly notion of “If it is God’s will all the saints will see it and agree” is also unscriptural. The "unity of the saints" or "the unanimity of the saints" is nothing more than the saints “standing” or agreeing with what the leading brothers have said because everyone is supposed to "submit to the leadership" and have "the approval of the leading brothers." The saints will disagree with a person's decision to do something contrary to the leadership because such a person is "acting independently of God's appointed leadership." Sometimes the Assembly will cite examples form Acts like all the saints were pleased with the Apostle's decision to distribute the food (Acts 6:1-5), but it also says in another place that Paul went to Jerusalem even though the saints did not agree with him (Acts 21:12-14). And Paul was not “submitting to the leadership” in Acts 21 when they told him to shave his head/followed the law because he had done it willingly himself in Acts 18:18! He was in agreement with their advice in that case, but he did not follow the entreaties of the brethren so “we fell silent, remarking, ‘The will of the Lord be done!” (Acts 21:14). The brethren in the Assembly will not keep silent if they think you are not in the will of the Lord (i.e., not following what they have said to you) and others in the Assembly will exhort you and ask, “Have you gotten approval from the leadership for this decision you have made?” Gossip ensues and soon everyone in the Assembly will know that the person is acting without the blessing of the leading brothers.
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