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Author Topic: Why do Former Assembly Members Still Tip Toe Around The Geftakys'???  (Read 15581 times)
Bluejay
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2003, 04:31:02 am »

Matt...

I did it again!!! Sorry about screwing up the quote deal...I thought I had figured it out but apparently not.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2003, 04:31:47 am »

Ok, you didn't quote properly, so let me try to fix this a bit:

Matt:
and I was offended when he said that I was "tempted by Satan" to celebrate Christmas. (still debating on the Christmas issue - maybe he is right) Anyway, if you were harmed in the assembly as a child, then you are right, don't blame yourself. Blame your parents.

Bluebaby:
As much as I appreciate your input, I'll blame whoever I want to blame.

Matt:
Ok, kiddo - you say so. Let's blame umm...the Vegans! Damn them!
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2003, 04:38:48 am »

Ok, you didn't quote properly, so let me try to fix this a bit:

Matt:
and I was offended when he said that I was "tempted by Satan" to celebrate Christmas. (still debating on the Christmas issue - maybe he is right) Anyway, if you were harmed in the assembly as a child, then you are right, don't blame yourself. Blame your parents.

Bluebaby:
As much as I appreciate your input, I'll blame whoever I want to blame.

Matt:
Ok, kiddo - you say so. Let's blame umm...the Vegans! Damn them!

Wow...Bluebaby!!! Pretty gosh darn funny!...Maybe if your career as whatever it is that you do fails, you could become a comedian!  

Good luck with that big Christmas decision!!!
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2003, 04:43:49 am »


Wow...Bluebaby!!! Pretty gosh darn funny!...Maybe if your career as whatever it is that you do fails, you could become a comedian!  

Good luck with that big Christmas decision!!!

Hyuk Hyuk, don't you know it? And good luck to you too on your fruitless and ungodly campaign against Tim G. If you ever recover the "millions" in question, are you going to distribute it to all the saints?
- Matt
P.s. Out of curiousity, why do you place Tim G in a worse category than his father? Did he exhort you a few times and it made you feel uncomfortably convicted? I guess maybe you and I can file a class-action lawsuit against him for his bad breath, his balding, his obesity, and his exhortation for us to be better Christians too.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2003, 05:53:18 am »


Wow...Bluebaby!!! Pretty gosh darn funny!...Maybe if your career as whatever it is that you do fails, you could become a comedian!  

Good luck with that big Christmas decision!!!

Hyuk Hyuk, don't you know it? And good luck to you too on your fruitless and ungodly campaign against Tim G. If you ever recover the "millions" in question, are you going to distribute it to all the saints?
- Matt
P.s. Out of curiousity, why do you place Tim G in a worse category than his father? Did he exhort you a few times and it made you feel uncomfortably convicted? I guess maybe you and I can file a class-action lawsuit against him for his bad breath, his balding, his obesity, and his exhortation for us to be better Christians too.

Thanks! My "fruitless and Ungodly" campaign really does need a lot of luck!

 And as for the millions...Im going to take it to a casino,  play one hand of black jack with it and hope to double it.

Do you honestly believe that any part of Tim Geftaky is Godly???  By the way, I don't think they would let us file a law suit against him for being fat, bald, and for his bad breath.  They tend to frown on frivilous lawsuits these days.

Tim Geftakys knew perfectly well what was going on with his loser brother.  He sat back and allowed a nice lady to get the crap beaten out of her.  What "great" leadership.  

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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2003, 08:32:00 am »

Matt,

I've been following this BB since January. At some point I remember that Bluejay posted his story.  I understand Bluejay's sentiments towards Tim G and 'make allowances' for him as a result.

Love and God bless,
M
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2003, 11:08:31 am »


Thanks! My "fruitless and Ungodly" campaign really does need a lot of luck!

 And as for the millions...Im going to take it to a casino,  play one hand of black jack with it and hope to double it.

Do you honestly believe that any part of Tim Geftaky is Godly???  By the way, I don't think they would let us file a lawsuit against him for being fat, bald, and for his bad breath.  They tend to frown on frivilous lawsuits these days.

Tim Geftakys knew perfectly well what was going on with his loser brother.  He sat back and allowed a nice lady to get the crap beaten out of her.  What "great" leadership.  


Bluejay,
He's just a man. Just like you. You both sin. What standard were you holding him to? Perfection? If one of the requirements of being a leading brother, pastor, preacher, whatever is perfection, then we would never have any leadership.

What is Godly? On what kind of scale? On a scale of  1 to 10, is he a 7? Is he not Godly because he wronged *you* personally? If you have a personal problem with him, why slander his name on this board?
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2003, 09:55:19 pm »


Thanks! My "fruitless and Ungodly" campaign really does need a lot of luck!

 And as for the millions...Im going to take it to a casino,  play one hand of black jack with it and hope to double it.

Do you honestly believe that any part of Tim Geftaky is Godly???  By the way, I don't think they would let us file a lawsuit against him for being fat, bald, and for his bad breath.  They tend to frown on frivilous lawsuits these days.

Tim Geftakys knew perfectly well what was going on with his loser brother.  He sat back and allowed a nice lady to get the crap beaten out of her.  What "great" leadership.  


Bluejay,
He's just a man. Just like you. You both sin. What standard were you holding him to? Perfection? If one of the requirements of being a leading brother, pastor, preacher, whatever is perfection, then we would never have any leadership.

What is Godly? On what kind of scale? On a scale of  1 to 10, is he a 7? Is he not Godly because he wronged *you* personally? If you have a personal problem with him, why slander his name on this board?


He's a man just like me?Huh

Wrong!!!

Here is the difference...I have a career and an outsanding reputation in my community.   He is a career criminal, and could fit all of his friends in a phone booth.

Secondly, as far as holding him to perfection... You better believe that I hold anyone who is as judgemental as he is  to the highest of standards.  

As for the "Godly" scale, I would put him at a 0.  There is not one part of Tim Geftakys that is Godly.  He has turned way more people away from God than onto God.  Honestly, I think when its all said and done that he will be right up there with the Anti - Christ.  This is not an emotional statement...This is calling a spade a spade.

Why do I "slander" him???  I wouldn't say that I am slandering him I am simply stating my true feelings about him.  Do I have a personal problem with him...Absolutely!  But above and beyond that he was a key leader in a ministry
that negatively effected many people I knew and care about. I spent 2/3 of my life in his ministry....I have said it before that I knew something was extremely fishy about the assembly but kept silent as I did not want to rock the boat.  When I left, I didn't have a bad word to say about anyone.  Now that my suspicions have been confirmed, war has been declared, and not just on this BB.  

My warning to Tim Geftakys is that he better have his ducks in a row because legal action is just around the corner....And Tim, don't tell the mindless people that follow you that this is the persecution, or a sign of the end of times, because its not.  It is simply the direct result of illegal activity.  You better get those back massages while you can!
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