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« on: August 26, 2003, 04:35:12 am »

Rediscovering the Secret of a Man's Soul

There is a new tactic in the war.

Have you heard about television today? It's called "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy". It is a reality show where gay men come into a normal man's life and help him with grooming techniques, interior design, cooking, culture, and personal style. (From what I've heard these homosexual advisors accomplishes a pretty good job and the man's life does improve in an outward sense of style.) HOWEVER, it is evident to me there is an underlining agenda to the show: Homosexual are redefining and giving this world the impression of what a man should be and society is buying into it.

Feminists have long expounded the view that women should deviate from their roles as mothers and wives AND get away from the oppression of men. This movement is dangerous because it drives a wedge between men and women from their God-given roles.

During the 80's I've heard many shows use words like 'pigs', 'insensitive' and 'sex feign' to describe men. So, society in the clutches of the enemy, have pounded man into a pulp on certain things that are true of any sinful man.

Also with social commentaries and books telling how men should understand women more it created this mythos-concept that masculine men are so out-of-tuned with women they need a total re-educational course on masculinity. Men who are opinionated, and rough have been slowly reduced to quiet worm-boys. Men cannot have their guns or hunt because men were so 'environmentally insensitive', men cannot fight a war because they were 'warmongers' and the list goes on and on.

With homosexuality becoming more of the accepted norm, homosexual men are admired ABOVE the heterosexual community as more stylish, sensitive, and more attuned to women because of their own effeminate nature. Dave Beckman, a renowned soccer player is now the ideal 'metrosexual' - a heterosexual man with the grooming habits of a gay man. In many consumer trends men are buying more health products and vanity related material than ever. One of the greatest growth trends in plastic surgery is for men.

Yet, nowhere are there any social commentaries lifting bold masculinity found in movie characters portrayed by Russel Crowe (Gladiator), or Mel Gibson (We were Soldiers, Braveheart).

What is contrastingly different in above mentioned characters compared to pretty boys is the CHARACTER of a man.

Courage, honor, integrity and faith is the heartbeat of a man that is held in grace by a man's faith and love for our Lord Jesus. A nation of pretty boys or worm boys will not stand up the likes of a Saddam, much less the devil himself. We, as a society, have forgotten the all encompassing values of a man: his character. Men, we will not win this cultural war and assault on God's design of manhood unless we exemplify our Lord Jesus Christ.

We must walk near Him and not allow our society to intimidate or refashion us.

We were created to be Dangerous for Good. We were created for God.



I would say today:

Men, it is better to be daring and inspire men like a William Wallace than it is to be caught up in whether you can still catch the eye of a woman like Austin Powers.

Men, it is better to tell the truth and pay the enormous price of living a life of integrity than having a color-coordinated home.

Men, it is better to courageous and inspire a platoon of young men to fight for freedom than to know the latest trends in men's fashion or how to exfoliate skin.

Men, it's better to die for something right than to live a life of compromise.

Men, it's even ok to go hunt (AND HAVE YOUR DIESEL GUZZLING V-8 HOT-BLOODED AMERICAN SUV) and bring back that "yeahhhh" cry of knowing you conquered your environment and your prey. : )

We do have something to conquer: it's our sin and the enemy.


Dangerous for God and Good...


Gordon

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2003, 10:50:05 am »

Gordon,

You say that men should be daring and courageous, yet you haven't fully identified yourself.
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2003, 12:47:04 pm »

Gordon,
    I am now stupider for having read your diatribe.  I don't even know where to begin. You are so very, very, wrong.

1.)  I guess you can take a guy out of the assembly, but you can’t take the assembly out of a guy.  I see that your intolerance has not been harmed by the falling stones of assembly life.

2.)  Yes, genius, there is an underlying agenda to the show.  You may not believe this, but everyone has an agenda for every action committed-good or bad.


3.)  Where would we be without a little traditional chauvinism?  If women deviate from their roles as wife and mother, then they are deviating from God's plan?  I don't know about you Gordon, but I like well-educated, professional, and smart women.  I guess some of us still need the barefoot and pregnant types  running around to feel comfortable in our manhood, though.

4.)  When did being environmentally sensitive become a bad thing?  Since Gordon doesn't believe in leaving a clean, healthy, and viable planets for future generations, I propose we all go poop on his lawn at 6 AM on Friday morning….  I'm tired of flushing anyway.


5.)  As far as war goes, I feel you should be free to commit suicide at anytime you want to, Gordon.  However, we do have laws against murder.  It's strange that you speak of war in the same run-on sentence as love for the Lord Jesus.  If you understand agendas so well, you might examine the capitalist profit making agenda served so well by every major war after  World War II.  You might look at  how the corporate owned media pushes their war propaganda at the middle and lower class citizens.  We are so scared of war and violence and black people raping our women, it's hard to leave the house without a gun.  It's funny how the crime rate has decreased by 20% in the last ten years, yet the media coverage of violent crimes has increased by 500%.  Next time you want to go to war to be "masculine", you might think about all the innocent women and children that die from U.S. bombing in our fight to “free” Iraq.

6.)  Homosexual men are not "admired above heterosexual men".  However, at this rate, Gordon, you’ll drive all the women away from us by Christmas(my favorite holiday!).


7.)  It is possible to have courage, honor, integrity, and faith while still maintaining good grooming habits-without being gay. Why must we "pay the enormous price of living a life of integrity" in a house with colors that clash?  I'm sorry it's such a strain for you, Gordon, but some of us are able to do two things at the same time.  Try flushing and putting the lid down-with practice, you could have it down in no time.

8.)  "Masculinity" is a trait associated with a person's gender, not their sex.  We don't all need to be overweight, loud, rough, farting war lovers to be a man.


9.)  If you are so interested in the “cultural war" perhaps you might be interested in the class war that is waged daily in the U.S.  The lower and middle classes are duped into promoting the interests of the upper class through education, religion, and the media.  A little Marx might do you some good.  Unless of course, you are too interested in the “gay” topic to be dissuaded.  

Whenever you decide, Gordon, please never, ever, ever write anything as ill informed as this again.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2003, 08:59:38 pm »

Caan,

You wrote,

"8.)  "Masculinity" is a trait associated with a person's gender, not their sex."

Would you be so kind as to explain what you mean by this?

Tom Maddux

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2003, 09:01:25 pm »

Gordon,

You say that men should be daring and courageous, yet you haven't fully identified yourself.

Gordon,

Steve is right.  It is time for you to emulate Mel Gibson, (Willaim Wallace), and shout something.  Your name perhaps?

Thomas Maddux
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2003, 12:20:02 am »

Speaking of William Wallace, the poster who goes by that name hasn't identified himself either.
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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2003, 12:24:11 am »

Tom,
    I not sure to how to explain it any better-but here goes.

Gender= The behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically asociated with one's sex.

Sex=Either of the two forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguishable as male or female.

The expectation of masculinity thus falls under the catagory of a gender expectation rather than some trait generally associated with being a male.  It is a common misconception to confuse the latter with the former.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2003, 01:06:34 am »

NEW RAMBO MOVIE TO BE WRITTEN/DIRECTED BY 5 GAY MEN

Aug. 26.......Universal Studios announced today that filming for the new Rambo vehicle will begin within the next two weeks. Tentatively titled "Rambo---The Fight Within", the movie will center on Rambo's attempt to get in touch with his feminine side. Written and Directed by the 5 members of the hit show "Queer eye for the straight guy", it promises to be a movie containing far more than just your typical story of war and death.

"Rambo will cry in this movie"stated Julio, one of the flamboyant five, "and that silly tasteless bandana he wears has simply got to go!" he added giggling. "And those nasty boots too. Some slip on tennies will work just fine---no socks of course" he added with a flip of the wrist. "And he'll be an interior designer and an environmentalist" chimed in Alexander, stroking his fingers through his hair, "but he'll be forced to take to combat once again against those nasty baby seal hunters. It's going to be just so exciting! It makes my little heart go pitter patter" he added, cooling his face with a brilliantly colored chinese hand-held fan.

"Some of the film cost us extra" added Percival, tightening the scarf around his neck a bit, "we had to fly in a real French Chef to teach Sylvester how to make Fondue, like Rambo will do in the movie" he sighed. "But when he gets done it sure looks yummy" he said, putting a ring covered hand on his belly. Basil, exhaling from a cigarette he was smoking in a long cigarette holder added "The scene with Rambo and the little baby seal is going to be kleenex time for the audience. I was blubbering half way through the scene." "But what Rambo learns in the end is the real story" said Alexander, "that every  man has a woman inside of him" he said to the nodding approval of the rest. "And we also learn that violence and weopanry are not necessary in a civilized world" added a cheery Basil, "Remember, the pen is mightier than the sword" he said. "We came up with the idea as we were sitting in the beauty parlor" said Julio, nodding towards Alexander, "When this really mean person insulted us and I said that we could really use Rambo right about now!" he laughed.

The film is due out next February and promises to be a real Blockbuster. If one Director could make a good Rambo film, then 5 gay ones can probably improve it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2003, 10:57:57 am »

Tom,
    I not sure to how to explain it any better-but here goes.

Gender= The behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically asociated with one's sex.

Sex=Either of the two forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguishable as male or female.

The expectation of masculinity thus falls under the catagory of a gender expectation rather than some trait generally associated with being a male.  It is a common misconception to confuse the latter with the former.

Caan,

If you are correct, the authors of Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary seem to be among the confused.

Under gender it says SEX.  The other meaning is the one from grammar.  The example sentence says "black divinities of the feminine gender".

I am familiar with the use of gender as you have used it.  It is sort of a mixture of the sociological term "role" and the rhetoric of the feminist and homosexual crowds.

The idea that they try to push is that people just have an inner "gender" that may cause them to hanker after, or wish to be, persons of the same or opposite sex, or even both.

What they hope to accomplish by this is the full legal and social acceptance of their perversions.

The fact is that people who have a male or female body, but have strong desires that are inconsistant with what they are, are severely dysfunctional at the very least.

Those who take the next step and act upon those desires, have given themselves to destructive sins.  They devestate themselves, their associates, and have a severely deliterious effect on society as a whole.

Do I exxagerate?  Remember, that millions of Americans have died or will die of AIDS.  The costs of their care is tremendous.  

  These are the folks who have spread it to the Western world.  Most AIDS cases are contracted by male homosexual contact.  The "transgendered" crowd then spreads it to prostitutes and girlfriends, sometimes wives.  Most prostitutes are drug addicts, so they spread it through the needle sharing.

The saddest thing of all is when it is passed to a child.  They must die a horrible death after just a few years of life.  I agree that this is a "sin worthy of death".

Calling Gordon a "Chauvinist" is a poor substitute for arguments supporting your postiton.  Just claiming to be "environmentally sensitive" doesn't really say anything.  Besides, maybe Gordon is a member of the Sierra Club.  Who knows?

Thomas Maddux



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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2003, 11:17:55 am »

Caan,

You wrote,

"A little Marx might do you some good.  Unless of course, you are too interested in the “gay” topic to be dissuaded."

When you mention Marx are you speaking of the fellow that unleashed untold horrors on several hundred million people?  The one who's athiestic totalitarian ideas couched in the delusion of "Scientific Materialism"  led to abject poverty, injustice, torture, imperialism, gulags, reeducation camps and so on and on.

Oh yes, the former Soviet bloc countries are the MOST POLLUTED countries in the world.

Ah, the sweet mercies of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Uncle Ho, Kim Il Jong, and even little Fidel.  And don't let's forget that great disciple of Karl's, Pol Pot, who tried to kill everyone in Cambodia that could read, so he could bring in the agrarian worker's paradise.

Is that the Marx you mean?

Come on Caan, tell me you meant Groucho Marx so Gordon would lighten up a little.  

Thomas Maddux
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2003, 05:48:31 pm »

Just a side note, not to distract from the discussion.

The idea that they try to push is that people just have an inner "gender" that may cause them to hanker after, or wish to be, persons of the same or opposite sex, or even both.

What they hope to accomplish by this is the full legal and social acceptance of their perversions.

According to the British pronunciation rules the above would then be an "agender". Smiley

The British have a unique pronunciation rule: if there is an "r" in the word then you do not pronounce it, but you always add an "r" to end of a word that ends in "a".
E.g.
Gordon would be pronounced Gaudon
Canada would be pronounced Canader

Marcia Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2003, 07:36:53 pm »

Tom, I totally agree Marx's ideas unleashed the horror of which you speak, but do you think he had that malevolent motive? Ideas are dangerous things. St. Paul has often been accused of planting the first seeds of communism in his "having all things common" ideas. That communal idea produces either beauty or ugliness depending on the integrity or spirituality of those who practice it. Interesting to think about on this BB don't you think?
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2003, 11:27:48 pm »

Just a side note, not to distract from the discussion.

The idea that they try to push is that people just have an inner "gender" that may cause them to hanker after, or wish to be, persons of the same or opposite sex, or even both.

What they hope to accomplish by this is the full legal and social acceptance of their perversions.

According to the British pronunciation rules the above would then be an "agender". Smiley

The British have a unique pronunciation rule: if there is an "r" in the word then you do not pronounce it, but you always add an "r" to end of a word that ends in "a".
E.g.
Gordon would be pronounced Gaudon
Canada would be pronounced Canader

Marcia Smiley

Are you saying that the gay/feminist crowd has a hidden agender?

 Wink

Thomas Maddux
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2003, 12:23:10 am »

Tom Robinson,

If subscribing to Karl Marx's ideas so consistently leads to horrendous results, then perhaps there is something seriously wrong with those ideas.  Isn't he the one that said that religion is the opiate of the people?  Psalm 2 says that God laughs at those who oppose him.  To oppose God is by definition a malevolent motive.

I think you are mistaken about Paul.  The expression "all things common" occurs in Acts 2:44 and Acts 4:32.  Paul's conversion happens in Acts 8, and his writings about church government are not at all consistent with communal living.

C. S. Lewis said that as a sick person is preoccupied with doctors, a sick nation is preoccupied with politics.  Governmental systems are irrelevant to good people: they don't need them.  The only reason government is needed is that people are flawed, so saying that communism would work if only the people had integrity cannot be construed as an argument in favor of communism.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2003, 03:52:03 am »

Just a side note, not to distract from the discussion.
The idea that they try to push is that people just have an inner "gender" that may cause them to hanker after, or wish to be, persons of the same or opposite sex, or even both.

What they hope to accomplish by this is the full legal and social acceptance of their perversions.
According to the British pronunciation rules the above would then be an "agender". Smiley

The British have a unique pronunciation rule: if there is an "r" in the word then you do not pronounce it, but you always add an "r" to end of a word that ends in "a".
E.g.
Gordon would be pronounced Gaudon
Canada would be pronounced Canader

Marcia Smiley
Are you saying that the gay/feminist crowd has a hidden agender?

 Wink

Thomas Maddux

Yes! You've got it! Smiley

Marcia Marinier
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